AON 4900

[2dialed]

got lucky and found the aon 4900 over at pegasus in montclair. i know bithead pointed this out but the aon takes 3x6mm motor screws and the 2.6mm will fit it but they might strip out using them so u have to drill out the motor mounts to fit the 3mm screws. ;) i tried running it on my phoenix 25 plane controller and didn't like the brakes so i got the mamba instead and what i'm noticeing is that there is no coasting, and then hitting the brakes, just drag brakes only. is this true of all brushless controllers? drag brakes only? i made up a 8 cell pack using some old kan cells from one of my planes as i'm still waiting on some packs from maxamps and i'm getting some cogging while taking off from a standing start. i have to roll on the throttle to get it moving and once moving it doesn't cog. i've tried a 10 tooth and 14 tooth pinon and both do the same. i have the phoenix link but never used it, felt the different profiles were just beta and was worried i couldn't go back to the original profile. is anyone having any luck programming the different profiles and which version is working? i used some of the mugen grease on the center diff and what a difference, no pushing, turns really nice and can't wait to try it out on the track and i know i won't have any problem breaking some parts because most of the racing i do is 1/8 scale so the tracks around here have some pretty big jumps and with the aon on board i'm sure i'll be going for it :eek:

[auto2]

no my tekin works perfect.

[2dialed]

are u saying with the tekin that u can coast and then hit the brakes? what about cogging, and what cells and pinon r u running

[TheTurtleMan]

Mine never cogs as well. 3cell lipo. There are a few tricks that you can do to help this prob you are having. Batts being one of them.

[leapingbug]

hey 2 dialed you need to hook up that link and take out the dragbrake and add some normall brake if you cant feel any allso turn down the timeing till you get some 3 cell lipos thatll do the trick :D

[2dialed]

yeah i tried the lipo's, i have an apogee 3s 830 pack and a tp 3s 1320 pack that i tried to shoehorn in there. i fried my slipper gear today i guess my mesh was not set right. i think it was still cogging though, i need a smaller pinon than the 14t i was running. what size lipo's r u guy"s running? the 3 cell 1320 pack doesn't fit very well, it's alittle bit too tall. do most of u flip the motor to the rear and run 2100's? my apogee 830's fit alittle better but i think i would have to pair them up in a saddle pack as this motor probably sucks down some amps lol :confused:

[theturd]

.... i think it was still cogging though, ...

Hi 2diled,

Here are a few things on cogging that I wrote (for better or worse). It is a starting point. There are other posts on cogging you may want to look at also.

http://halfeight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8317#post8317
http://halfeight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12900#post12900
http://halfeight.com/forums/showthread.php?p=13559#post13559

[TheTurtleMan]

Hey Turd,
When are you gona get them 4900's back in stock? :confused:

[theturd]

Hey Turd,
When are you gona get them 4900's back in stock? :confused:

I believe we'll have them back into your local store before then end of April. The exact will be around the 24th.

[2dialed]

well i finally used the castle link which i've had laying around forever, it went pretty easy so i loaded the 1.04 version,an 8 cell intellect 1200 with deans ultra, and a 10t pinon. the new batteries didn't seem to have much more power than the old kans that i was using but it was on it's first cycle. still coggs though on a standing start so hopefully i won't crash much and it won't be much of an issue. i'm using the standard settings except for brake strenght, any suggestions for the settings? i live pretty close to carson ca. so i was thinking maybe one of the quark 33 controllers, has anyone tried thier procar 33 amp? i'm thinking i'll head over to socal and try this pup out on the track :D

[2dialed]

:D yep turd tried to beat arourd the bush with the spilled juice, even said it would take 25 or 30 amps to start this motor. well i put a mtroniks genesis sport 40 amp controller in there and it has twice as much acceleration :eek: top end is about the same but it gets there quicker. also put a buggy body on there with the buggy shock towers. the truck shock towers are not as tall as the buggy toweres and the shocks lenght fit the buggy towers better. took me about 10 tries to get the body to fit as this speedo is huge. the capacitor is about the size of a cp 1300 cell. wish i could load a picture cause this sucker is prety bad ass. has massive heat sinks built into the body of it and it ran outta the box without programming or nuthing ;)

[BitHed]

...Dialed did it get hot at all? LMK as best you can...Cheers...

[arsehoyle]

hey guys,
I was just running my MI in my shop last nite where we've been setting up a track every weekend (carpet over plywood) after a few agressive laps (I was getting about six feet of air and about 18 feet length off one of the jumps) I happened to chatch a glimse of something shiny bouncing around inside the body. It was the end cap of my AON 4900!!! :eek: Those things are just glued on! And it popped off completely! I'm not sure how long I was running it like that but, up until I stopped it, it seemed to be running fine (the aon is an awsome running motor). I've only had the aon for a few weeks and this problem comes as a complete suprise since it seems pretty well built otherwise.

Has anyone else had this experience? Maybe turd can tell me what the best way to go about putting it back on would be....what kinda glue do you guys use? :confused: Maybe I should use a different kind...?

This is my first brushless setup (I'm mostly a nitro guy :cool: ) so any info would be great. Thanks!

[theturd]

Locktite it back on. However make certain that nothing got into the motor before to put it back together.

[theturd]

2dialed, you really need to go to a higher count pinion gear (start with 13T) to get more speed. That is a good comfortable pinion for most users.

[2dialed]

i ran it over at crystal park yesterday with a 12 tooth pinon with an 8 cell 1200's but it couldn't keep up with the 1/8th scales, might have to go to lipo's or gear up like u say. i use the 12 tooth because i really have it set up more for socal which is a smaller track. i'd really like to run 1/10th scale buggy rears on it but can't find any caw adapters. i assume most of u guys running the lipo's are flipping the motor to the rear and running 2100's cause i can't really find anything other than the apoggee 830's that would fit in a saddle pack configuration. i don't think the tp 910 would fit either but i haven't tried it. i think the old tannic or irate 1100's would have fit it but i'm not sure. probabaly head over to socal wed nite and see how it does.

[arsehoyle]

The old locktite on the endbell trick eh? OK I'll give that a try! Thanks turd!

[arsehoyle]

Btw since this IS a thread about the AON....it's AWSOME!!! :D I walked all over my buddys' nitro LST2 drag racing! :p ...Sweet revenge since his LST is a bit faster than my Savage...but then...that's for another forum.

[Crusher]

Holy Cow! I just ran the Aon this weekend with the kyosho 9.6 battery. My buddy with the hacker and 11.1v lipo couldn't even come close to matching my speed and acceleration. I'm ordering another as backup.

Matthew

[theturd]

Glad you guys are having fun. What are pinions, spurs and battery pack are you guys running with? Once you have post it, I'll have some stickers sent out to you. This will help fellow drivers... unless you need to keep your edge :rolleyes:

Oh, be sure to email me you mailing address or post it. My email is schao@aonelectric.com NOTE: It doesn't even need to be an AON motor setup.

[Crusher]

I'm running the 3R center diff with whatever spur that is. I believe I had the 31t blue delrin gear and a 16t plastic pinion. I was also running the Kyosho brand 9.6NiMH.

I had an issue with Robinson Racing mini metal pinions. I was eating up my blue delrin gears like crazy. My buddy thinks it's because my plastic motor mount was flexing under the torque of the Aon.

Matthew

[008]

Hello Sir! This may be a dumb question but does the Aon 4900 go in reverse with the mamba 25 esc. I know that this a Heli motor.

[008]

How do i gear the inferno for Florida offroading where the ground is sandy. Using the aon 4900. And how do i gear the mini inferno half 8 lav military vehicle for trailing speeds and rock crawling . I know that sand puts additional stress on any motor.

[theturd]

There is no dumb question. T2415-4900 is not a heli motor. It is designed for the 1/18 to 1/14th class cars and EDF (electric ducted fans).

Off roading on a sandy track will most likely require a change in tires. Reduce the pinion count to effectly lower the drive ratio. Make certain that all your drive train system and important joints are protected and sealed (if possible).

[MrUnlimited]

How do i gear the inferno for Florida offroading where the ground is sandy. Using the aon 4900. And how do i gear the mini inferno half 8 lav military vehicle for trailing speeds and rock crawling . I know that sand puts additional stress on any motor.
For gearing on sandy ground depends on the battery: golden rule is to start with a small pinion and see how it is running. You can then
add a new pinion with a extra tooth. Start with 10t (if you are using the blue 3Racing gears).
For a Rockcrawler you have to get a low rev motor with a high gearing to get torque.

[leapingbug]

hey turd whats up bin a long while.I was thinking about getting another mini so i figured id poke in here to find it dead:mad:

[aldredheron]

I believe the 24 refers to the diameter of the motor...I just measured it and it was 24mm in diameter. The length of the AON 4900 is just slightly over 33 mm as measured with a caliper. The Mamba motor is the same length but 20 mm in diameter.

I emailed Steven Chao requesting the dimensions of the T2815-5800 and will post them here when he replies if he doesn't post them here himself. If the sizing works out, it could be a real monster in the Half8! It might be too much for the track but it should be ballistic on speed runs with some tall gearing (provided the drivetrain holds up).